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kingswells.guest
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| 09 Sep 2005 01:19:07 |
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| [b]This post was copied from Newhills Junction[/b]
Where is the promised improvement? The promised improvement should have been built 20 years ago in the form of the bypass!!! That road, classed as a B (minor) road was never built to cope with the volumes of traffic it sees. To improve that road to a sufficient capacity would only serve to see more traffic in the form of HGVs using it.
I agree that the road is awful in terms of congestion and road surface and that it is completely unsuitable as a main commuter route in Aberdeen. What we need is for the people of Kingswells, i.e. the majority of people who have posted on this forum to stop complaining about the proposed bypass and start supporting it for the long term good of our community. |
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kingswells.guest
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| 09 Sep 2005 04:22:50 |
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| me & my friend Bert are all in favor of this WPR !!!! |
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georgem
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| 09 Sep 2005 12:47:35 |
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| So is my friends Balfour and Bardon:msn_wink: |
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kingswells.guest
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| 11 Sep 2005 15:43:21 |
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| Just build the damn thing. its our frineds in cults that are holding things up |
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kingswells.guest
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| 11 Sep 2005 19:54:12 |
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| fiends in cults with friends !!!! |
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kingswells.guest
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| 16 Sep 2005 19:37:36 |
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| The obvious benefit of the WPR is that you should be able to travel at 70 mph from the entry point to exit point on the WPR.
Will the WPR cut journey times? That will depend where your journey starts and ends.
Consider the journey from Kingswells to Stoneywood which currently takes about 15 -20 minutes at peak times. Estimated time using the WPR[list=1]
[*]Kingswells to WPR [color=red] 3-5 mins[/color]
[*]WPR to A96 [color=redΥ mins[/color]
[*]A96 Junction to Airport roundabout (Currently very congested and this will be much worse post WPR) [color=red] 5 - 10 mins[/color]
[*]Route A: Roundabout to Stoneywood Via Bucksburn (Congestion at Bucksburn to Dyce road )[color=red] 10 mins[/color]
[*]Route B: going around the airport road to Dyce (Journey is longer with delays going into Wellheads Estate, and Dyce to Stoneywood)[color=red] 10 - 15 mins[/color]
[*]Route C: Leaving A96 at Marshall Tractors and all round the houses to Dyce and then Stoneywood (Delays at Dyce. Much longer than other routes.)[color=red] 15-20 mins[/color]
[*][b]Route A Total[/b][color=red] 21-28 mins[/color]
[*][b]Route B Total[/b][color=red] 21-33 mins[/color]
[*][b]Route C Total[/b][color=red] 26-38 mins[/color]
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[center][b]All longer than existing 15-20 minutes without the WPR[/b][/center]
The WPR will be faster if you live adjacent to the WPR and work adjacent to a main junctions of the WPR. If this is not the case then you will use congested roads that are not helped by the WPR. Most of these routes are congested because they carry traffic into town from the outskirts of Aberdeen. The additional traffic from the WPR will make these routes even more congested.
So what are the benefits of the WPR? Certainly going from one end to the other will be quicker, but how often do you do that?
Where do you live and work? Do you think you will benefit from the WPR?
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kingswells.guest
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| 16 Sep 2005 19:45:06 |
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| Sorry, total for route C should be 21 - 28 mins |
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kingswells.guest
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| 18 Sep 2005 16:48:31 |
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| I guess the WPR was not planned for the specific benefit of residents of Kingswells, other than to remove some traffic from the current rat-runs - maybe this will improve the journey time to Stoneywood using the existing route?
Maybe by the time the WPR is built we will have viable and frequent bus services to take people to their workplaces in the City, Altens and Dyce?
Maybe the people of Fraserburgh, Peterhead and other places north will appreciate the benefits the improved communications bring in making their towns more attractive to new businesses?
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IanC
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| 18 Sep 2005 20:23:15 |
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| Commuter,
The WPR is a peripheral route not a bypass. Only 10-15% of traffic is expected to bypass the city. The road is obviously a benefit to these people.
You are quite right, the WPR is not for the benefit of Kingswells alone. The point I was trying to make was that the WPR will not necessarily reduce congestion, it may actually add to existing congestion of roads like the main road from the north to the airport roundabout.
The WPR team does not have figures to show the benefits of the road for various journeys. Does that not horrify you? Surely this should be a deciding factor when considering the best route.
Your point about using the existing road to Stoneywood makes sense, and it is what I would do. The WPR team have suggested that if people who were expected to use the WPR do not do so, then measures can be taken to ensure they do.
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kingswells.guest
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| 19 Sep 2005 03:25:07 |
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| MAYBE an asteroid will hit the Park & Ride and wipe out the N.E. of Scotland, then you won't need to drive to work.
MAYBE your car will sprout wings and you'll be able to fly to Dyce.
Maybe you'll get a life and stop worrying about whether route B takes 12 nanoseconds longer than route E, which in turn takes a millenium longer than a trip to Pluto.
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kingswells.guest
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| 19 Sep 2005 16:21:51 |
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| Maybe people who have nothing to say will keep quiet! |
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kingswells.guest
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| 20 Sep 2005 03:01:57 |
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| Tetchy!!! |
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kingswells.guest
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| 20 Sep 2005 20:19:23 |
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| The WPR is a peripheral route not a bypass, which means you can build on either side, ref Inverurie & it's many developments |
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