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kingswells.guest
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| 20 May 2005 05:47:25 |
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| We moved into an area liable for these costs in December.
We have had zero correspondence from Peveral and the first we heard of these fees was a letter from The Property Management Company last week.
Should we,at some point,expect a bill from Peveral for fees from December to present ???:msn_confu |
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kingswells.guest
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| 20 May 2005 06:02:09 |
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| Having just read the community council's commendable,but still hardly 'plain english',attempt at explaining the situation,I'm still completely confused to the point where I can see little option but to pay the fees.
To form a reseidents' association,as I understand it,I would have to;
1/ Ascertain how many homes are covered by 'our' fees and ascertain where they all are.
2/ Ascertain what common ground these homes are responsible for
3/ Get quotes for the maintenance from a.n.other landscapes Ltd.
4/ Write to all of the homes responsible with copies of the quotes
5/ Chase people up for replies/agreements etc.etc.
Hardly the easy option that the community council hints it could be,is it....
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georgem
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| 26 May 2005 17:02:20 |
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| Regarding Andrews Post 17th May
We will have no option but to pay this Oldmeldrum crew for any work done until a RA is formed ,I noticed the grass was cut yesterday 25/5 , however you can query the bill and ask for it to be split down to the number of houses in your deed plan. showing a square meterage rate etc. , not the 546 houses as they have shown. They cannot lump them all together.Check your deeds the area shown is quite specific. mine is 9.407 hectares and for 128 houses , Wellside Area.
The basis to this argument eg. is that Derbeth area may have a greater or less square meterage of grass to cut , or more or less shrubs & trees per house than we have. Or even more slopes to the grass , you get paid more for cutting grass when it passes a certain incline ! And any way what would stop SMG building to Bucksburn and getting us to pay for that too!
I've spoken to the solicitor about it and he confirms this. |
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kingswells.guest
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| 26 May 2005 19:43:35 |
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| georgem
at long last someone is talking sense, not the usuall shite.
pardon my french !!! |
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kingswells.guest
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| 27 May 2005 04:53:15 |
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| bollocks !!!!!
it's control that's the main issue it's not the cost... |
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georgem
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| 27 May 2005 06:01:48 |
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| Exactly its not the cost.
However that is the area set out in my deeds ,the same deeds that say I have to pay ,at the very least your going to make them work for their management fee.
But ask yourself if you think it is commercially competitive to come up from Perth to cut the grass .
Anyway if a few people want to give up some spare time to run this for the benefit for all its not a big deal.
Then we would have control to decide whether or not to get it adopted ,which contractors to use and goodbye to the silly management fees. |
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kingswells.guest
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| 27 May 2005 07:09:45 |
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| I am quite amazed that the majority of people still believe that all we have to do is get another gardening contractor and that will be the end of it!
What happens if 20% of residents simply don't pay their fees? From speaking to my neighbours its evident that it's actually nearer 90-95% of people haven't payed Peverel a penny! Where will the money come from to take non-payers to court? How long do you estimate it will take the debt collectors to get the money? Some people I've spoken to in the street say they've not payed a penny for 6 years!
At the end of the month the gardeners will expect to be payed in full, if it's not then they will walk. Same goes for the insurance company we take on to cover the childrens play areas. |
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georgem
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| 27 May 2005 09:33:24 |
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| I'm under no illusion having involvement in the Construction Industry, I know only too well the pitfalls , this is why I asked for about8 volunteers to break it down in to manageable sections about 16 properties per volunteer.
Obviously you have to factor some non payment but what do you think Peverel are doing , their certainly not absorbing the costs of non-payers they are adding it on to those who pay , hence why the costs have been rising faster than inflation.
they have had no legal requirement to chase up bad debt because thay have had no contract with a residents association.
I'm not indicating one way or another that we do away with a Factor but at least we could have the choice to use a factor with reasonable management charges.[b][/b] |
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kingswells.guest
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| 29 May 2005 02:23:26 |
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| fence the areas off & add some sheep..grass gets cut for nothing, the children have a village farm & at the end of the year you have spring lamb
yum yum !!!!! |
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kingswells.guest
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| 29 May 2005 19:30:00 |
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| Residents associations only work effectively if the numbers are kept to fewer than 50 households, any greater than that & you have the shambles that we are in at the today (which the factor(s)fully exploit).
There will always be defaulters who will dispute the final invoice, but that's life.
You can try to name & shame these individuals or use the threat "[b]we the RA from Derbeth will smash your windows in ten days time if you do not pay up[/b]"
Residents associations require good leadership & loyal support.
The new builds in Kingswells have been divided up in a complicated way, so that the division of the area boundaries make the formations of these RA's very difficult "a cunning plan" ref Black Adder.
In life there will always be winners & losers, so it's the same with RA's....
You have to speak up to be heard.......
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