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kingswells.guest
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26 Apr 2006 08:21:57 Alert 
At the risk of being seen as a Kingswells do-gooder or end up on the receiving end of the wise cracker comedians out there, does anyone know of a place to report able bodied folks who park in the disabled spaces at the Kinswells shops (and elsewhere) Having a wheelchair bound parent, my eyes have been opened to the abuse of those parking spaces and the difficulties it causes. Seeing perfectly capable people abusing them to save walking a few yards is a common site and confronting them seems to have little positive effect. Perhaps we should start reporting car reg numbers on here ! If you have any helpful suggestions then thank you very much - and wise crackers - give it your best shot.
kingswells.guest
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26 Apr 2006 09:58:32 Alert 
If the carpark is actually council run then you should take a pic of the offending number plate in the disabled space , and on the council website is a traffic managers e-mail address. Attach the photo to an e-mail explaining the problem. Knowing ACC they'll do absolutely nothing about it, but it's the best solution I can think of. If the car park is not council run, then disabled parking spaces are purely discretionary and parking in them breaks no laws or bye-laws...e.g. supermarket car parks etc.
kingswells.guest
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26 Apr 2006 11:12:35 Alert 
Take a pic and send it in here. Maybe Claire could start a rogue's gallery. On the other hand, these folks maybe don't experience shame anyway. We live in a post-Christian society...
kingswells.guest
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27 Apr 2006 12:17:42 Alert 
Sorry, but there will be no number plates, no rogue gallery - the police gave me a friendly ticking off for a similar item carried on the website a while back. The website in these situations must remain neutral. :msn_cool:
kingswells.guest
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10 May 2006 12:20:55 Alert 
ask the Evening Express to cover the story, they take pictures of people parking on School Zig Zags!
kingswells.guest
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11 May 2006 16:40:31 Alert 
I'm fairly new around here, but have to say I have not seen a problem here like other places. Almost every time I've been to the shop, the disabled spaces have been empty or emptied after a minute or two. Once or twice I've seen young mums struggling with little kids using it, but that doesn't bother me too much as it looks like they have just as hard a time coping as lots of disabled people to be honest. No wonder asda etc have mum and kid spaces. If I ever have kids and struggle for shopping, I would hope someone would turn a blind eye now and again. Not too keen on properly able and without baggage using spaces though, but not noticed much of it around here. I've more noticed the shop space hoggers, ie those going to the community centre and school and leaving the cars at the shops for hours so no-one else gets a space. ps - my mum has a disability badge
kingswells.guest
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12 May 2006 07:31:30 Alert 
Your very lucky that you have not yet stumbled upon one of the multitude of arrogant prats who seem to live here invariably driving a BMW , Audi or 4x4. Ive been here 5 years and my neighbour across the street has NEVER spoken to me or my family. I have tried many times to start a conversation while taking out the bin or cutting the grass etc. but to no avail. I think he objects to my works van being in my driveway but thats tough....
kingswells.guest
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12 May 2006 08:01:35 Alert 
Couldn't you leave this van thingy at work, or put it in the park and ride, to avoid lowering the tone ? I take it this "van" is properly declared as a benefit in kind ? I do sympathise with your neighbour. It can't be very pleasant looking out on a filthy van.
kingswells.guest
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12 May 2006 08:07:50 Alert 
If you live in a Stewart Milne developement then you will find your deeds prohibit the parking of commercial vehicles on your drive or on the estate roads. I must say that this is totally disregarded by some residents on my street. PS I would be quite pleased if my neighbours were only ''seen but not heard''.
kingswells.guest
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12 May 2006 08:44:11 Alert 
Ref. benefit in kind, there is now no tax to pay as long as private use of the van is limited to travel to / from your place of work.
Libby
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14 May 2006 14:04:15 Alert 
It's hard to define a works van methinks. There are those with adverts for firms on them and those which are the private vehicles or vans people own and use for work. What's the difference in those to cars people use to get to and home from work and take their work with them etc etc - just a little bigger? Ok - hard to live with a brightly coloured, lettered van in the drive next to you, but people have to make a living and sometimes vans come with the lay of the land and no other way for those people to get out and about financially. I sympathise with both sides, but surely not a reason to not speak to people over. Come on folks - we only get one life - speak to each other. I've found most people pretty friendly so far. 1 month here and loving it on the whole.
Libby
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16 May 2006 15:22:01 Alert 
Guest If you read my post properly you would have seen that I was agreeing that it is sometimes necessary to have vans in driveways however untidy they may look. No point in saying they aren't, but from where I stand I realise that for many people they are necessary so don't have a problem with them really. Your second point I think needs a bit more clarification. I mean only mums with "young" kids. I don't mean the children who can get out and around and out of cars on their own, ie school age ones. I mean the ones who have to struggle with little toddlers. The reason I said this is that my sister has a disabled child who is nearly 3, a baby and an older child. Her disabled child gets disability allowance on the lower rate, and doesn't get mobility on that rate until her appeals are heard and the rates changed, or her child gets older. So for her, struggling with two who can't hardly walk is very very difficult and I have no problem with seeing struggling mums using the spaces at all, that's just my view - I don't expect everyone to agree with it. ps - the view I get from your post shows a feeling that it is allright to bend the rules with having a van in your driveway where the deeds say no, but not allright for someone struggling to use something which may help them get on with necessities of life. And not all young mums are arrogant either.
kingswells.guest
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17 May 2006 05:49:51 Alert 
Vans are not just not allowed on driveways but not allowed to be parked on any of the SMH estate roads. The worst 'offenders' seem to be self employed builders & joiners many of whom also carry on their business from their garages, also contrary to the deeds. Why agree to something when you buy the house and then just ignore it because it suits you ? Back on topic... I noticed Sainsbury's will charge a £40 civil penelty for parking in their disabled spaces without a badge.
kingswells.guest
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17 May 2006 06:16:23 Alert 
Is a company car not a "commercial" vehicle under another guise? I think you will find that not just SMH deeds will have this stipulation - its quite common. Strictly speaking it is "illegal" to record something off the telly and then "broadcast" it to your family at a future date so ....be careful out there. Libby As you have explained your sister has a disabled child and therefore is fully entitled to use the space. Anoyther annoying aspect of the shop car park is that most days it is full of presumably teachers cars - when they were planning ther expansion who did they not consider an extension to the existing car park or indeed the addition of another one?
kingswells.guest
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17 May 2006 07:44:36 Alert 
....so could someone just call up SMH legal services and get them to enforce the deeds and get all the vans chucked off the estate ?
georgem
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17 May 2006 15:00:46 Alert 
I believe, but stand to be corrected, that the feu superior law changed a couple of years ago and SMH now have no legal right to enforce these conditions , they were only put there as a safegaurd when he was trying to sell the houses , as for the road since he got them adopted by ACC he looses all rights to that one.
kingswells.guest
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17 May 2006 19:18:16 Alert 
it's a long drawn out process but your title deeds are the rules & yes they have nothing to do with SMH. take out a court order & blah, blah, blah, blah....... taking the law into your own hands has the immediate result, but then you become the bad person.. A big sticky friendly & polite notice over the passenger window will suffice. the brick is for future reminders. :msn_cool:
kingswells.guest
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14 Jul 2006 04:59:06 Alert 
No one seems to care about disabled people parking in our spaces
kingswells.guest
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22 Nov 2006 04:52:28 Alert 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6167388.stm Good News !
loggs
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22 Nov 2006 08:12:35 Alert 
Perhaps they should also have a bill to stop people parking in Parent and Child spaces that either dont have their children with them or no children at all, or even children that are not in seats and are old enough to get out of the car themselves. Also isn't it frustrating when their are no spaces in a car park but 10 empty disables spaces!!! these are often in inappropriate places e.g. a gym!
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