Fiona Blindell
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| 04 Aug 2008 08:46:38 |
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Kingswells Sommelier
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| 04 Aug 2008 13:13:12 |
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I disagree - purely on the basis that the decision has been made in keeping with the charter of the community council. KCC are making decisions in an area they are allowed to. Given there are empty seats on the council we must therefore have 100% of the residents of Kingswells who are willing to act within a defined legal framework. By allowing one decision to go this way, it paves the way for every decision to go this way.
I understand the reasoning for your suggestion though. I would suggest a different course of action - those who are interested in influencing the running of the community take one of the empty seats on KCC, and work within the existing defined legal framework. |
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concerned
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| 04 Aug 2008 22:04:41 |
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The following posting is from Kingswells Sommelier on the SPY CAMERAS forum of 11th July 2008
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I wonder why people are generally after giving Ian such a hard time about things. It seem in this (and e.g. the school playground) thread people can pretty much level any accusation at Ian(undemocratic etc) without having to substantiate it. Not so long ago there had to be appeals to get people to turn up to the community centre to allow the KCC to continue, so I can see we are full of concerned residents. I'm one of them who will not go, and I am happy to let Ian and the council determine the way forward for Kingswells in the way they see fit. I think I have automatically forfeited my right to have much of an opinion on the issues as I don't do anything to change it. I'm glad there are some more altruistic people in Kingswells who take an active interest in the community, and I thank them for doing it. I imagine it is a pretty thankless task, and getting a barrage of (light) abuse is really going to encourage an already underpopulated council to continue. I don't see the treatment Ian is getting as a way of encouraging more people to sign up.
Can I also suggest some people try showing their posts to some colleagues/friends as a reasonable-ness (I know it's not a word) test. Have people really got nothing better to do than worry about a camera watching them going to the shops? Do you not go into the city centre? What is actually going to happen? I occasionally show this forum to friends as it generates a laugh.
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Is any other reader wondering how Kingswells Sommelier gained so much detailed legal knowledge regarding community Councils? |
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Kingswells Sommelier
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| 05 Aug 2008 03:29:09 |
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Aww, shucks, you'll make me blush. I wouldn't say detailed. After all, I'm just a lowly wine waiter trying to make my own way in this world :)
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concerned
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| 08 Aug 2008 00:27:30 |
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Fiona,
When I read your start posting “CCTV - PUBLIC MEETING” of 4th August 2008.
I considered it to be a sincere and honest opinion. You felt the time was right for an open public debate regarding the installation and use of the recent CCTV system at the shops.
The system was organised by the Community Council, financed from the public purse and is being administrated by the Community Council.
The number of views / replies to the “SPY CAMERAS” posting indicates that many people have taken an interested in the subject.
I was surprised to see you have removed your posting.
I hope you do not feel you have been pressurised, intimidated, or bullied in any way to remove your legitimate posting.
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IanC
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| 08 Aug 2008 02:13:14 |
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Concerned,
If there is any intimidating or bullying on this forum it is most likely to come from you.
Although there is a high number of views on your pet topic there is actually little support for your views. Perhaps that is the reason. A public meeting for one would not be much of a public meeting. If the meeting was not organised by the community council as Fiona suggested then who would be the logical person for that task - the originator of the post?
I am sure Fiona will let us know her reasons, but if she chooses not to respond then most will understand that she simply changed her mind about the post. |
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concerned
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| 08 Aug 2008 03:44:07 |
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[quote]Posted By IanC on 08 Aug 2008 02:13:14
Concerned,
If there is any intimidating or bullying on this forum it is most likely to come from you.
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Thats rich comming from you.
[quote]Posted By IanC on 08 Aug 2008 02:13:14
Concerned,
Although there is a high number of views on your pet topic there is actually little support for your views.
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Pure conjecture, you are the high profile one with opinions on everything but still, very little support is expressed for you.
[quote]Posted By IanC on 08 Aug 2008 02:13:14
Concerned,
A public meeting for one would not be much of a public meeting.
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You don't get too many members of the public at KCC meetings
[quote]Posted By IanC on 08 Aug 2008 02:13:14
Concerned,
I am sure Fiona will let us know her reasons, but if she chooses not to respond then most will understand that she simply changed her mind about the post.
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Then again most may not understand, and some may wonder why you have become so pushy and aggresive on this post
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andy92
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| 08 Aug 2008 04:06:52 |
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| Please can "concerned" be barred from posting on the forum. Although amusing, its getting to the point where they need to change the record. |
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concerned
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| 08 Aug 2008 04:36:53 |
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I leave it to other readers of this postings to decide why the usual
suspects have suddenly sprung to life so full of venom. |
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Swellking
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| 08 Aug 2008 10:16:33 |
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There will be a couple of people with loads of log-ins.
It was the same when the possibility of the football stadium being built
at Bellfield was on the go.
Some people like to invent friends to make their views appear correct.
Very few are Aberdonians.
As long as the camera is not directed to someone's house it's no big deal.
Time to move on surely. |
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concerned
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| 09 Aug 2008 03:26:57 |
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SwellKing
All the people working towards having the camera adjusted and the person whose home the camera is directed at, Are local and very sincere.
All any interested party has to do is look at the camera adjustment, as you drive into the coop car park and ask yourself if camera is pointed towards monitoring car movement.
Ask the question how would I feel having a high spec CCTV camera (not required to monitor car movement) pointed towards your home and garden 24hrs a day 7days a week 52 weeks a year
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Frank
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| 14 Aug 2008 01:11:37 |
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Saxon
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| 14 Aug 2008 08:25:11 |
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Question for Swellking
Are you saying that the views of native Aberdonians should be taken more seriously than those of Kingswells residents - whatever their place of birth ?
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Swellking
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| 14 Aug 2008 10:40:57 |
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I'm saying that too many moaners in Kingswells are not Aberdonians and will not
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Saxon
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| 14 Aug 2008 12:40:58 |
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Interesting view S,
I'm not Aberdonian but have been a Kingswells resident for 10+ years.
Do I qualify to hold an opinion ?
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Swellking
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| 15 Aug 2008 11:15:56 |
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Saxon, on you go then,have your say.
Were you for or against the proposed football stadium ? |
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Saxon
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| 28 Aug 2008 11:16:10 |
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Sorry for the delay in replying SK I've been away.
I take a purely economic view of the proposed stadium -
Why should public money be used to subsidise the private indulgence of a multi-millionaire ?
and that goes for wherever they want to build it.
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